Just remember, that when you're talking to a Democratic legislator in Illinois, that person is probably quietly under the impression that the pension system itself is the underlying cause of the (manufactured) existential crisis in public education. She or he is just being too coy to tell you that this is the underlying belief.
The thing I've now taken to asking before I even bother with my unanswered questions about the Constitutionality of the Quinn proposal is this: "Do you think pensions cause bad teaching?" Because that's what they think. They've all got this report on their desks.